| Before I read reviews or looked up the general consensus on an anime, I kinda just watched what seemed popular at the time. I remember the first time I found MAL and read the reviews of shows that I had watched and loved and was shocked to see how much people disliked them. But despite that, I still have a fond memory of those shows enjoyment wise despite knowing that they aren't really well made. Has anyone else had/is having a similar experience?? |
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| People can shit on Mayoiga all they want, it will always be the best comedy of 2016 in my heart. |
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_Ako_ said: Everyone have different taste dude. There's nothing wrong liking a good anime. Of course, I didn't mean to say that bad animes > good animes. It's the opposite, objectively. I'm just trying to make sense that for some reason I like animes that are, for the lack of a better description, widely accepted as shitty. |
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| Welcome to the internet when you are able to see that people's opinions can vary. I suggest you to not take MALs rating into consideration much. I enjoyed Gundam Reconguista in G though it has like the lowest rating among the other Gundam shows. |
Valkyrie said: Welcome to the internet when you are able to see that people's opinions can vary. I suggest you to not take MALs rating into consideration much. Heh, yeah. I'm starting to realize how overly simplistic and kinda dumb my question was. |
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kurapika-chu said: _Ako_ said: Everyone have different taste dude. There's nothing wrong liking a good anime. Of course, I didn't mean to say that bad animes > good animes. It's the opposite, objectively. I'm just trying to make sense that for some reason I like animes that are, for the lack of a better description, widely accepted as shitty. You know what's much, much cooler than saying "Gee, I know these anime suck and many people dislike them but I just have shit taste and like bad anime :3"? Trying to figure out why you like what you like and putting that into words. There's something there making you like it, yeah? What is that? If it's the story or the characters or the titties, preferably the third option so whenever AD inevitably plunges into organized warfare our manpower will be that much more bolstered but w/e that's irrelevant atm, what made you like that aspect of whatever series you have in mind? And going further, why didn't what the people are calling it shit for bother you as much to make you dislike it? So on and so forth tbh I feel it's kind of weak to just bend the knee and say that something's shit because other people say it's shit, chances are if you liked it while you watched it there was something there making you like it and if you can't quite express it well you just need to work on getting better at pinpointing what aspects of things you like and putting those thoughts into words |
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| You shouldn't give two shits about what someone else thinks about a show in the relevance of your opinion on the show. Just because an anime is viewed as bad by the community doesn't mean that the show's bad to you. You can enjoy whatever the fuck you want. The idea of "oh I know this show is bad but I still like it" is fucking retarded nonsense, it's only said by people who are aware of the fact that others dislike it and seem to think that if the consensus thinks it's bad, that means the show is actually bad. You like what you like. If you think your opinions will have changed, go rewatch the shows in question and see what you think of them now. |
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| chimera ant arc sucks. just leaving this here. i havent really read your thread, but lately more and more rather unpoular anime found their way into my favourites (Flying Witch, Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu: Sukeroku Futatabi-hen, 3-gatsu no Lion) so i guess im on thaaaat trip. also yeah many popular anime suck. when i randomly find a anime site on facebook and skip though it i see only bad anime advertised. that kinda makes me sad/mad. i want actually good anime art to be liked by many. |
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Manaban said: kurapika-chu said: Of course, I didn't mean to say that bad animes > good animes. It's the opposite, objectively. I'm just trying to make sense that for some reason I like animes that are, for the lack of a better description, widely accepted as shitty. You know what's much, much cooler than saying "Gee, I know these anime suck and many people dislike them but I just have shit taste and like bad anime :3"? Trying to figure out why you like what you like and putting that into words. There's something there making you like it, yeah? What is that? If it's the story or the characters or the titties, preferably the third option so whenever AD inevitably plunges into organized warfare our manpower will be that much more bolstered but w/e that's irrelevant atm, what made you like that aspect of whatever series you have in mind? And going further, why didn't what the people are calling it shit for bother you as much to make you dislike it? So on and so forth tbh I feel it's kind of weak to just bend the knee and say that something's shit because other people say it's shit, chances are if you liked it while you watched it there was something there making you like it and if you can't quite express it well you just need to work on getting better at pinpointing what aspects of things you like and putting those thoughts into words Thanks for this. I agree with you 100%, and this is something I'll be thinking about. |
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Galaxy__ said: chimera ant arc sucks. just leaving this here. i havent really read your thread, but lately more and more rather unpoular anime found their way into my favourites (Flying Witch, Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu: Sukeroku Futatabi-hen, 3-gatsu no Lion) so i guess im on thaaaat trip. also yeah many popular anime suck. when i randomly find a anime site on facebook and skip though it i see only bad anime advertised. that kinda makes me sad/mad. i want actually good anime art to be liked by many. Oh, the CA arc is actually one of my favorite arcs. But yeah, I agree with the points that you made. |
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| 90% of MAL users have mindset of "my taste>your taste" regardless of what shows they like, me included. It's all just a shitstorm of garbage opinions no one gives a fuck about. You could spend all day arguing what's better, or you could just simply ignore it and move on with your life. |
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| Yes, I have this all the time. There's so many times where I would read a non-spoiler review before starting an anime, then the reviews would either lower my expectation(s) or cause me to stay away from the anime at all, but then as soon I start it, it turns out to never be as bad as people make it seem.. Part of me feels like people use the review section just to bash on the anime because they didn't like it. It's almost as if they allow their emotions to dictate what they write on the review as opposed to writing from an objective standpoint. Don't get me wrong, yes all reviews are pretty subjective, but at the very least, try to show both good and bad sides as opposed to just naming all the negative parts, if you didn't like it.. How I see it is that for most people, if an anime is bad according to the stuff that pertains to the anime (Art/Sound/Character/Plot), they won't enjoy it and will not try to enjoy it, but if it's good in those aspects, then they can enjoy it while having minimal criticism. |
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| I've been in that position before OP, there is nothing inherently wrong with liking a bad show but many refer to them as a 'guilty pleasure'. Ratings in general are contentious, they are a metric used to gauge how well the audience reacted to the series. There is going to be some unreliability but is usually rather consistent over many databases. Many series have inflated ratings due to the phenomenon called recency bias which is gradually dealt with over time. I've seen this same question pop up in r/movies a while ago, the fact you like a show of such quality isn't reprehensible by any means, just expected, there is nothing more I can say to this. |
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| I feel ya op...HxH is my favorite anime and manga- and when I initially finished the 2011 anime, it was really hard to get into other Shounen series just because they didn't seem to be on the same wavelength. I love battle shounen series in general, but watching HxH kind of crapped all over my expectations even though I know most of those types of series don't have morally ambiguous main characters and arcs where the main antagonist and MC don't even meet each other. It just doesn't happen! To rectify my problem, I just decided to look at HxH as an outlier lol The high quality of the series doesn't alter my enjoyment of other anime that I'm currently watching or have watched in the past- it's precisely because HxH is so well written that it sticks out like a sore thumb, and if every anime was that good, then I wouldn't appreciate the amazing stuff when it does come along! I blitzed One Piece- with its apparently terrible pacing- and a majority of its specials/movies long after watching HxH and it didn't affect my enjoyment because they're just so different. It's the same thing with MHA and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure...I can enjoy them for their differences to other anime I like, but also commend them for possible similarities as opposed to scrutinising them because they might handle certain subjects differently. If that makes sense?? Like, look...Fairy Tail is a BAD anime with a very godly soundtrack Everyone and their grandmother knows that...but despite all its flaws, the early arcs were really great. After years of having watched the series and seeing much better anime of the same genre, I still stick by that statement. I enjoyed watching those first 175 episodes or I would have dropped it we just don't talk about what happens after that |
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kurapika-chu said: Before I read reviews or looked up the general consensus on an anime, I kinda just watched what seemed popular at the time, (which was a mistake.) I remember the first time I found MAL and read the reviews of shows that I had watched and loved and was shocked to see how much people disliked them. But despite that, I still have a fond memory of those shows enjoyment wise despite knowing that they aren't really well made. (But now after watching Hunter x Hunter, a masterpiece, my standards just got much higher. Now every show I'm talking about pales in comparison. But I still like them, despite knowing that.) Has anyone else had/is having a similar experience?? You are the one who decides whether it's a "good" or "bad" anime. "Good" and "bad" are subjective things. They depend on the point of view. Even if all reviewers are saying that an anime is not well made that doesn't necessarily mean it's not well made. There's no such a thing as absolute truth. If you liked an anime that means it was good for you. And then you can write your own review pointing out your reasons for having liked it. |
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kurapika-chu said: Before I read reviews or looked up the general consensus on an anime, I kinda just watched what seemed popular at the time, (which was a mistake.) I remember the first time I found MAL and read the reviews of shows that I had watched and loved and was shocked to see how much people disliked them. But despite that, I still have a fond memory of those shows enjoyment wise despite knowing that they aren't really well made. (But now after watching Hunter x Hunter, a masterpiece, my standards just got much higher. Now every show I'm talking about pales in comparison. But I still like them, despite knowing that.) Has anyone else had/is having a similar experience?? Yes. You will live a much more happy and fulfilling life if you stop doing these things and just base what you watch on something more relevant like the plot description and your own taste. |
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| l Illyricus said: People can shit on Mayoiga all they want, it will always be the best comedy of 2016 in my heart. lmao +1 HAHAHAHAHAHA. Interesting start turned downhill |
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| Usually when it happens, it's when anime are so bad that they are actually pretty funny. As for the popular anime, who cares? Heck the MAL ratings don't even matter. Even my own MAL ratings aren't a very good measure of how much I enjoyed it because I don't rate by enjoyment alone. Some of my favourite anime which I enjoyed the most are just shows which have done well with their comedic timing, able to master sharp contrasts as a means of comedy, have wacky premises that they can make endless jokes on or simply a likable character with really interesting personality quirks. The reason you had fond memories of the show was because they were legitimately easy to follow and had elements which entertained you throughout, you just never noticed the flaws. I'd say that even if you did, you would have enjoyed it anyways. |
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Illyricus said: People can shit on Mayoiga all they want, it will always be the best comedy of 2016 in my heart. Close, but Saiki Kusuo did a bit better in comedy, although nothing beats Mayoiga in the parody genre. |
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oryouohagi said: Illyricus said: People can shit on Mayoiga all they want, it will always be the best comedy of 2016 in my heart. Close, but Saiki Kusuo did a bit better in comedy, although nothing beats Mayoiga in the parody genre. You dare question the greatness of our lord and savior Swagamoto? OT: It's all based on opinions, who it is to say that an anime is truly "bad". I mean there are some shitty fanservice shows out there that I'll watch, but I'm sure some people think those are legit good shows. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: i think op meant something among the lines of giving high ratings to low rated anime / anime with bad reviews (particularly those with high popularity)How can you like something that is 'bad'? If I like something, then it is good. If it's bad, then I won't like it. 'Liking' is the judgment of considering something good. |
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akihiko132 said: That is exactly what it was that hilarious. It was a beautiful trainwreck.l Illyricus said: People can shit on Mayoiga all they want, it will always be the best comedy of 2016 in my heart. lmao +1 HAHAHAHAHAHA. Interesting start turned downhill oryouohagi said: Haven't seen Saiki Kusuo, so I cannot say anything about that. Still good to see there are someone who can appreciate Mayoiga's greatness.Illyricus said: People can shit on Mayoiga all they want, it will always be the best comedy of 2016 in my heart. Close, but Saiki Kusuo did a bit better in comedy, although nothing beats Mayoiga in the parody genre. |
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Illyricus said: That is exactly what it was that hilarious. It was a beautiful trainwreck. oryouohagi said: Haven't seen Saiki Kusuo, so I cannot say anything about that. Still good to see there are someone who can appreciate Mayoiga's greatness.Close, but Saiki Kusuo did a bit better in comedy, although nothing beats Mayoiga in the parody genre. I hope this gives you the will to watch this masterpiece. |
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oryouohagi said: Not gonna lie, it looks glorious. Someday I will watch it.Illyricus said: That is exactly what it was that hilarious. It was a beautiful trainwreck. Haven't seen Saiki Kusuo, so I cannot say anything about that. Still good to see there are someone who can appreciate Mayoiga's greatness. I hope this gives you the will to watch this masterpiece. |
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romagia said: TheBrainintheJar said: i think op meant something among the lines of giving high ratings to low rated anime / anime with bad reviews (particularly those with high popularity)How can you like something that is 'bad'? If I like something, then it is good. If it's bad, then I won't like it. 'Liking' is the judgment of considering something good. Consensus is interesting for hearing different opinions, but anyone who lets it do the thinking for them is lazy. |
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kurapika-chu said: Before I read reviews or looked up the general consensus on an anime, I kinda just watched what seemed popular at the time, (which was a mistake.) I remember the first time I found MAL and read the reviews of shows that I had watched and loved and was shocked to see how much people disliked them. But despite that, I still have a fond memory of those shows enjoyment wise despite knowing that they aren't really well made. (But now after watching Hunter x Hunter, a masterpiece, my standards just got much higher. Now every show I'm talking about pales in comparison. But I still like them, despite knowing that.) Has anyone else had/is having a similar experience?? So basically whatever the consensus says is good or bad is objective? Honestly you need to get some backbone and stop making other persons opinion change your view on a series that you liked. |
| what exactly is "bad anime", what exactly is "good anime", the rating where did the rating come from, Opinion, in the end, its all about our shitty opinion, just because the anime is good imo, doesn't make it good to the others. |
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kurapika-chu said: Yeah I've had some experiences like that, pretty early on in the history of my interactions with the anime fandom.Before I read reviews or looked up the general consensus on an anime, I kinda just watched what seemed popular at the time. I remember the first time I found MAL and read the reviews of shows that I had watched and loved and was shocked to see how much people disliked them. But despite that, I still have a fond memory of those shows enjoyment wise despite knowing that they aren't really well made. Has anyone else had/is having a similar experience?? I quickly realized that people had different tastes and I couldn't make the world agree with me on stuff. I also quickly realized that anime was a lot more fun if I ignored other people's opinions before watching stuff. Kierah said: I know, right? I watched Wonder Momo, kinda enjoyed it, and apparently am way far from the consensus opinion simply by kinda enjoying it.I personally liked Sword Art Online and Wonder Momo even though they are hated by so many people, especially Sword Art Online, which is one of my favorite anime! Then again, shorts like that tend to get a lot of disappointed watchers... |
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| Same here,i just one day randomly found ajin on netflix after finishing most of the popular irl tv series there were and watched it (without knowing what anime or mal was) . Once i found out it was anime and got interested it in it all i did was “good anime to watch” or “top 10 anime” without caring or checking what the reviews/rating was. Once i found mal i was shocked to see that not only people hated ajin,but a bunch of other series i REALLY liked (still to this day) were trashed. Point being is, dont check reviews and i also try my hardest to ignore the rating system,that way you will find shows that you might love yet everyone else might not |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: kurapika-chu said: Yeah I've had some experiences like that, pretty early on in the history of my interactions with the anime fandom.Before I read reviews or looked up the general consensus on an anime, I kinda just watched what seemed popular at the time. I remember the first time I found MAL and read the reviews of shows that I had watched and loved and was shocked to see how much people disliked them. But despite that, I still have a fond memory of those shows enjoyment wise despite knowing that they aren't really well made. Has anyone else had/is having a similar experience?? I quickly realized that people had different tastes and I couldn't make the world agree with me on stuff. I also quickly realized that anime was a lot more fun if I ignored other people's opinions before watching stuff. Kierah said: I know, right? I watched Wonder Momo, kinda enjoyed it, and apparently am way far from the consensus opinion simply by kinda enjoying it.I personally liked Sword Art Online and Wonder Momo even though they are hated by so many people, especially Sword Art Online, which is one of my favorite anime! Then again, shorts like that tend to get a lot of disappointed watchers... Yeah buddy, you're right! Sadly, these anime are very low on MAL |
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| In a similar thread to this i already talked about my love for the much maligned Blood-C, so i'll leave it to that. But not everyone has to like the same things as everybody else. Id that happens the world would be to boring. And that's why i oppose to any kind of human instrumentality project Illyricus said: People can shit on Mayoiga all they want, it will always be the best comedy of 2016 in my heart. Hey Illy, long time since the last time e talked. Did you know Mayoiga and Blood-C was directed by the same person? Who also directed Shirobako, if a recall correctly. xaow said: sorry, any anime I like is objectively good :^) You wish. |
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